Name/Nickname:
YOU ALREADY KNOW.
What is your response to the doping test results from the Estonian Championships 08?
POSITIVE.))
Were the test results correct?
I’LL SAY THIS MUCH: THE DOPING HUNTERS’ WORK LEAVES SOMETHING TO BE DESIRED. THE RESULTS ARE 50% CORRECT.
Could you have ingested banned substances through supplements, or could someone have tried to set you up?
AT A CERTAIN POINT, DOPING IS JUST ANOTHER SUPPLEMENT FOR A BODYBUILDER. WHAT I MEAN IS THAT ONCE YOUR NATURAL DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL IS MAXED OUT AT 100, EVERY ATHLETE DECIDES FOR THEMSELVES WHETHER TO SETTLE FOR WHAT THEY HAVE OR TRY FOR MORE.
Who tempted you to use banned substances, and who sold them to you?
WHEN I FIRST STARTED, I HAD NO INTENTION OF COMPETING. I WANTED TO SEE WHETHER I COULD BUILD A PHYSIQUE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THAT OF MY GREAT ROLE MODEL, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
FAR FROM IT. IT’S PRETTY CHILDISH TO THINK, OR HOPE, THAT QUARK AND POTATOES WILL MAKE YOUR BICEPS GROW TO 57CM.
AGAIN, I’M TALKING ABOUT AN ARM MADE UP OF BONE, MUSCLE AND THE SKIN COVERING IT. SOME FAT STRONGMAN COULD CERTAINLY STUFF HIMSELF UNTIL HIS ARMS MEASURE AROUND 60CM, BUT THEN HIS WAIST WOULD BE 1.5M TOO. THAT WOULD HOLD NO APPEAL FOR ME, EVEN IF I COULD STOP A FREIGHT TRAIN WITH ONE HAND LIKE THE SUPERHERO HANCOCK.
SO YOU CAN PROBABLY WORK OUT FROM THAT WHO ”TEMPTED” ME. WHO SOLD THEM DOESN’T MATTER.
Is it difficult to get hold of banned substances in Estonia? And is it very expensive?
NOTHING IS HARD TO GET HOLD OF IF YOU WANT IT.
EXPENSIVE…? IT MIGHT GET EXPENSIVE FOR MEN WHO BELIEVE THAT DRUGS ALONE WILL MAKE THEM BIG AND STRONG. YOU HAVE TO WORK JUST AS HARD, OR EVEN HARDER, THAN WHEN YOU TRAIN NATURALLY. THE DIFFERENCE IN THE RESULTS /HOW YOU LOOK/ IS, HOWEVER, PRETTY NOTICEABLE.
I’LL ALSO SAY THIS: USING THESE SUBSTANCES IS HARMFUL TO THE HEALTH OF PRECISELY THOSE MEN WHO ARE WILLING TO SWALLOW HANDFULS OF ALL SORTS OF STUFF IN SEARCH OF A MIRACLE DRUG, BUT ONLY GO TO THE GYM TO SCRATCH THEIR BALLS.
Was the real reason that you were conducting an experiment to see how effective doping controls are in Estonia?
PARTLY (READ THE ANSWER TO THE SECOND QUESTION)
Was getting caught, so to speak, unexpected, a slip-up, or did it not matter?
I KNEW WHAT I WAS DOING. I KNEW THAT IF I HAD TO TAKE A TEST, THE SAMPLE WOULD COME BACK POSITIVE.
Do you believe that you and Valter Olonen (the -80kg winner) were the only offenders at this competition?
HONESTLY? NO. BUT AS YOU CAN PROBABLY GUESS, I’M NOT CONDEMNING ANYONE. IF ANYONE IN ESTONIA HAS KEPT THEIR HANDS OFF BANNED SUBSTANCES, AND I MEAN AMONG COMPETING MALE BODYBUILDERS, IT’S OTT. EVERYONE ELSE HAS AT LEAST TRIED OR USED THEM AT SOME POINT. OK, LET’S PUT IT THIS WAY: MALE BODYBUILDERS CAPABLE OF CONTENDING FOR THE TOP THREE TO SIX /in some years/ OVERALL.
What % of bodybuilders competing in Estonia do you think are not 100% clean, even in the off-season?
IF WE TAKE THE LAST 15 YEARS, THEN 1%. SOMETIMES ONE, SOMETIMES ANOTHER. MOST HAVE EXPERIMENTED WITH DOING IT ONE WAY FOR ONE SEASON, THEN ANOTHER WAY. AGAIN, OVER TIME I’VE COME TO BELIEVE THAT THE LEVEL OTT ACHIEVES IS 100% NATURAL.
HE’S ALSO THE ONLY ”MADMAN” BESIDES ME WHO WORKS HARD AT IT ALL YEAR ROUND. UNLIKE ME, HE HASN’T TRIED IT BOTH WAYS. I’D VENTURE TO SAY THAT I TRAIN, AND HAVE TRAINED, EVEN MORE THAN OTT. YES, I AGREE THAT MANY OF THOSE WORKOUTS HAVE BEEN POINTLESS IN TERMS OF MAXIMIZING COMPETITION RESULTS AND DEVELOPMENT. BUT AS I’VE SAID BEFORE, COMPETING HAS NEVER BEEN MY NO.1 PRIORITY IN THIS FIELD, RIGHT FROM THE START. THE MAIN THING THAT MOTIVATES ME TO GO TO THE GYM EVERY DAY AND ”TORTURE” MYSELF IS THE FATIGUE THAT COMES WITH HARD TRAINING. THAT’S MY NO. 1 PLEASURE IN LIFE. (TO EACH THEIR OWN; WE’RE ALL CRAZY IN OUR OWN WAY)
Should doping controls in Estonia and worldwide be stepped up or scaled back?
ESTONIA CAN DO WHATEVER IT LIKES HERE; IT WON’T CHANGE THE WORLD. IN OTHER WORDS, WHY WILL ESTONIA NEVER WIN A MEDAL IN MEN’S BODYBUILDING? ANSWER: THE WORLD PLAYS BY DIFFERENT RULES. OK, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT RULES, WHICH GIVE ATHLETES FROM OTHER COUNTRIES THE CHANCE TO TAKE RISKS AND CONTEND FOR MEDALS.
I WOULDN’T RULE OUT ESTONIA WINNING A MEDAL AT A BODYBUILDING COMPETITION IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT THAT WOULD BE IN CLASSIC BODYBUILDING, NOT MEN’S BODYBUILDING. TESTING 100% OF FINALISTS WORLDWIDE WILL NEVER HAPPEN; EVEN TESTING THE TOP THREE IS OUT OF THE QUESTION. ANYONE WHO CAN THINK WILL UNDERSTAND WHY.
Which banned substances have you used, and what did you use this time?
THE SAME OLD ”GOOD” D-BOL, AS IT’S COMMONLY KNOWN.
THIS ALSO DISPROVED /AT THE ESTONIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS 08/ THE MYTH THAT D-BOL MAKES YOU RETAIN WATER AND THAT YOU CAN’T GET INTO CONTEST CONDITION ON IT. YES, THE GUYS WHO GET WATERY ARE THE ONES EATING SAUSAGES, WHITE BREAD AND D-BOL TOGETHER. THE IDEA THAT D-BOL IS TERRIBLY TOXIC TO THE LIVER IS JUST AS MUCH OF A MYTH. A FOOL CAN WRECK HIS LIVER BY SWALLOWING ASPIRIN TOO.
Is V.Dubinin, president of the Russian national bodybuilding team, connected to this in any way?
)))))) YES, OF COURSE. TERRORISTS HE HIRED CAME AND FORCED ME TO TAKE D-BOL ON PAIN OF DEATH. ))
Is your coach I.Otsus also connected to this?
NO.
Is life on the bodybuilding scene so boring that if you don’t make it exciting yourself, nobody will?
WHAT COUNTS AS EXCITING? BUT YOU COULD PUT IT THAT WAY. BODYBUILDING IS A CIRCUS, AFTER ALL, AND PEOPLE WANT TO SEE CLOWNS. ANYONE WHO TAKES THIS FIELD TOO SERIOUSLY, TOO MUCH AS A SPORT IN THE LITERAL SENSE OF THE WORD, COULD TAKE UP OLYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING, FOR EXAMPLE. THERE, THE RESULT IS CLEAR-CUT. THE JUDGES’ EMOTIONS AND PERSONAL PREFERENCES DON’T COME INTO IT. YOU LIFT MORE, YOU WIN. THAT’S ALL.)
THIS IS ALSO WHERE WE COULD POINT OUT WHY THIS DISCIPLINE, BODYBUILDING, WILL NEVER MAKE IT INTO THE OLYMPIC PROGRAM.
IT SIMPLY WON’T, ALTHOUGH PERHAPS IT SHOULD, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME REALLY POINTLESS EVENTS THERE THAT ARE MUCH HARDER TO CONSIDER SPORTS AS SUCH. BUT WELL, THAT’S MY OPINION.
Do you feel that some people in Estonia are granted certain privileges while others aren’t? If so, who, and why?
IF YOU MEAN DOPING, EVERYONE IS EQUAL IN THAT RESPECT. IN OTHER WORDS, IF SOMEONE TAKES A RISK, THEY DO SO AT THEIR OWN RESPONSIBILITY. I DON’T BELIEVE, HONESTLY DON’T BELIEVE, THAT ANYONE IS DELIBERATELY MANEUVERED OUT OF TESTING, SO TO SPEAK. IF, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WEREN’T SELECTED FOR TESTING TODAY BUT HAD BEEN POPPING SOMETHING, THEN YOU SIMPLY GOT LUCKY, SO TO SPEAK.
What do you think of Arnold Tokko?
A CHARACTER IN HIS OWN RIGHT.)) LIKE ALL OF US.
NOTHING BAD TO SAY, BUT WE DO SEE SOME THINGS DIFFERENTLY. THAT’S ONLY NATURAL, THOUGH. I’M NOT HIM AND HE’S NOT ME. THE SAME GOES FOR EVERYONE.
Is Estonian bodybuilding honest, or is it more about politics?
))) AS HONEST AS POLITICS.
How many years have you used banned substances in total?
I’LL KEEP THAT TO MYSELF, OR PERHAPS I’LL QUOTE WHAT OUR PRESIDENT ARNOLD TOKKO SAID ABOUT ME.
/KALMUS IS CERTAINLY NOT AMONG THE BIGGEST DOPING USERS IN ESTONIA; IF ANYTHING, HE’S A CLEAN GUY.- 2001/
LET’S SAY HE’S NOT FAR FROM THE TRUTH. AS FOR WHY KALMUS IN PARTICULAR HAS FAILED DOPING TESTS IN ESTONIA A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TIMES AND ENDED UP LABELLED A HOPELESS JUICER, PEOPLE WHO THINK FOR THEMSELVES MAY ALREADY KNOW.
What year did you first start using, and what did you use? How did you get hold of steroids back then?
THE FIRST TIME WAS WAY BACK IN THE LAST CENTURY. THE SAME OLD SUBSTANCE: METHANDIENONE. I BOUGHT IT FROM SOMEONE I KNEW.
Is top-level bodybuilding even possible without steroids?
OF COURSE IT IS. THE STANDARD HERE IS WHAT IT IS, COMPARED WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD. MY GOAL THAT TIME WASN’T TO BEAT OTT OR ANYONE ELSE HERE. IF I’D HAD THE CHOICE, I WOULDN’T HAVE COMPETED AT THE ESTONIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS AT ALL. CLASSIC BODYBUILDING COULD DO WITH ANOTHER HEIGHT CLASS: AT MY HEIGHT, I’M STILL A LITTLE OUT OF PROPORTION FOR THE +180 CLASS, AS MY PLACINGS AT LAST YEAR’S WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS /9TH/ AND THIS YEAR’S EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS /8/ SHOW.
THAT TIME, MY PLAN WAS TO COMPETE AT THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS UNDER THE SAME ”RULES” AS THE OTHER COUNTRIES IN CONTENTION FOR MEDALS. BUT ESTONIA’S DOPING POLICY IS WHAT IT IS IN THAT RESPECT. BASICALLY AN IRON CURTAIN.
IN CLASSIC BODYBUILDING, ESTONIAN COMPETITORS WHO ONLY JUST FIT INTO THEIR HEIGHT CLASS MAY BE ABLE TO COMPETE NATURALLY AT WORLD LEVEL, I MEAN. ONLY THEN, WHEN THEY’RE IN GOOD CONDITION, IS THEIR MASS-TO-HEIGHT RATIO MORE OR LESS COMPETITIVE, SO TO SPEAK. SO MAYBE A MEDAL WILL COME SOON, TOO. WE’LL SEE.
If you didn’t use any performance-enhancing substances, would we still see Marek with 50cm biceps?
WITHOUT ANY PERFORMANCE-ENHANCING SUBSTANCES, MY BICEPS MEASURE 49-50CM COLD WHEN I’M IN GOOD CONDITION. WITH A FEW LITTLE ”HELPERS”, THEY’VE BEEN 53CM ONCE, TOO, I’D GUESS. I SIMPLY HAVEN’T MEASURED THEM IN AGES. I DID MEASURE THEM OUT OF CURIOSITY WHEN I TRIED COMPETING IN CLASSIC BODYBUILDING, THOUGH. THIS SPRING, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY MEASURED 50CM.
What is the message of your new action film, Bonsuna: Ruthless and uncompromising?
”NOTHING IS OVER YET, THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING”
AND THAT’S HOW IT IS: THE END OF SOMETHING IS THE BEGINNING OF SOMETHING NEW. ALWAYS.
Is there a connection between the film and your doping use?
100%, I HAD TO BE IN GREAT SHAPE TO FIGHT THOSE RUSSIAN MONSTERS. A LITTLE SHRIVELLED GUY WOULDN’T BE AS CONVINCING IN THE ROLE.)
Bonsuna R&U and irony?
OBVIOUSLY.
Did the right man win the overall title at the Estonian championships in 08?
100%
Is bodybuilding worth it, and is there any point to it?
ANYTHING YOU ENJOY AND GET THE CHANCE TO DO IS WORTH IT. YOU CAN’T MEASURE EVERYTHING IN MONEY.
FOR SOMEONE WHO’S A BODYBUILDER AT HEART, IT’S A WAY OF LIFE. THEY COULDN’T LIVE WITHOUT IT, SO IT MEANS A GREAT DEAL TO THEM.
Is training with doping different from training without it?
TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST, THERE ISN’T MUCH DIFFERENCE FOR ME. YOU CAN SQUEEZE ALMOST AS MUCH OUT OF NATURAL MUSCLE AS YOU CAN WITH DOPING, BUT THAT REQUIRES EVEN MORE PAINSTAKING ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU EAT AND HOW MUCH. YOUR TRAINING PLAN AND TRAINING LOADS ALSO HAVE TO BE SPOT ON. I’VE DONE INCREDIBLE THINGS IN THE GYM WITHOUT ANY HELPERS. BUT AS I SAID, IT TAKES A MUCH MORE PRECISE APPROACH TO NUTRITION, AND MORE KNOWLEDGE. IT’S EASIER WITH DRUGS: YOU CAN EAT SWEETS AND MEAT PATTIES AND STILL GROW. WHEN YOU TRAIN NATURALLY, NOTHING ESSENTIAL CAN BE MISSING FROM YOUR DIET.
EVERYTHING HAS TO BE 100% RIGHT EVERY DAY, RIGHT DOWN TO THE TIMING, NUTRIENTS AND MINERALS. LET THINGS SLIP BY A FEW % AND YOUR RESULTS SUFFER IMMEDIATELY.
HOW YOU LOOK IS ANOTHER STORY, OF COURSE. LET’S NOT EVEN GO THERE.
FOR EXAMPLE: TWO ATHLETES WHO ARE IDENTICAL IN THEIR PHYSICAL ABILITIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. CLONES, SAY.
THEIR NUTRITION AND TRAINING ARE 100% RIGHT. ONE TRAINS NATURALLY, WHILE THE OTHER TAKES 1 TABLET OF METHANDIENONE EVERY DAY, FOR EXAMPLE. AFTER HALF A YEAR, THE DIFFERENCE IN HOW THEY LOOK IS COLOSSAL.
WHY ARE SO MANY SO-CALLED JUICERS UNHAPPY WITH THEIR PROGRESS, PUMPING THEMSELVES FULL OF MORE AND MORE DRUGS TO IMPROVE? THE MAIN REASON IS THEIR POOR KNOWLEDGE OF NUTRITION. THE SAME GOES FOR HOW THEY DISTRIBUTE THEIR TRAINING LOADS AND BALANCE WORK AND REST. IT’S THAT SIMPLE. A STUPID JUICER ALWAYS LOOKS SHITTIER THAN A SMART NATURAL.
What’s next? Competitions, personal life, work?
LIFE GOES ON. WE’LL SEE. / LIFE IS AN ADVENTURE, FOR FUCK’S SAKE)))/
What do you have to say to your fans?
EVERYONE ALWAYS MAKES THEIR OWN CHOICES. SOME CHOICES REQUIRE SACRIFICES, OTHERS REQUIRE RISKS, BUT AS I SAID, LIFE WOULD BE BORING AND DULL WITHOUT THEM. THAT MAY SUIT SOME PEOPLE, BUT THAT GREY DAILY CYCLE OF HOME- WORK- WORKOUT- HOME WOULDN’T DO SHIT FOR ME. EVEN THOUGH THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE THERE, TOO.
AH, NOTHING TO SAY. JUST KEEP DOING YOUR OWN THING AND EVERYTHING WILL BE A-OK.
The so-called fake fans will probably drift away, but…
IF I HAVE A FEW LEFT, THEY’LL STAY. A TRUE FAN STAYS A FAN UNTIL DEATH, JUST AS I’M A FAN OF SCHWARZI. WHATEVER HE DOES, EVEN IF HE SETS FIRE TO HIS OWN CALIFORNIA FORESTS.
What advice would you give young bodybuilders who want to reach the top too?
MINDLESS HARD WORK ALONE WON’T GET YOU TO THE TOP. DEVELOP THE AREAS AND KNOWLEDGE I WROTE ABOUT ABOVE. LEARNING ABOUT PERFORMANCE-ENHANCING DRUGS CERTAINLY WON’T HURT, EITHER. WHETHER YOU EVER USE THEM IS UP TO YOU. STAY AWAY FROM THEM FOR AS LONG AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN, AND BELIEVE ME, YOU CAN ACHIEVE A GREAT DEAL IN MUSCLE DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT THEM.
If you could turn the clock back a year, would you, and what would you do differently?
I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT A ONE-WAY TICKET TO HOLLYWOOD, AND BY NOW YOU’D BE WATCHING THE REAL, TRULY RUTHLESS & UNCOMPROMISING BONSUNA IN ESTONIAN CINEMAS.))
Are there only 2 options in bodybuilding: small or big — is that the question?
A BODYBUILDER CAN’T BE SMALL. THEN HE’S NO LONGER A BODYBUILDER: HE’D BE CLASSIC BODYBUILDER VENV OR CLASSIC BODYBUILDER MKALMUS.
IN BODYBUILDING, YOU NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MASS FOR YOUR HEIGHT, AND IN TERMS OF PROPORTIONS, THAT CAN’T BE SMALL.
PRO BODYBUILDERS ARE ALL BIG, ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE, REGARDLESS OF THEIR HEIGHT.
IT’S ACTUALLY THE SAME IN AMATEUR BODYBUILDING IF WE’RE TALKING ABOUT WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP MEDALLISTS.
Additional comments:
THIS WILL BE MY ONLY PUBLIC INTERVIEW ON THIS SUBJECT. THE SUBJECT IS NOW CLOSED. THERE’S PLENTY I COULD SAY, BUT ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS WILL COST MONEY. /SHOULD ANYONE BE INTERESTED/
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